I listened to Degrowth vs Eco-Modernism.

• It’s a good episode.
• I like Kai Heron, and I’ve found the debate between various strands of ecosocialist thought very interesting.
• But I also lament the time spent disagreeing amongst ourselves on the left.
• Is it ultimately useful? What if all this intellectual effort could be spent on bringing about a transition away from capitalism, and towards ecosocialism?
• I don’t know – perhaps the debate is contributing to that transition, in part, in a roundabout. And I suppose that if we don’t know what we stand for, we can’t meaningfully work towards it.
• But still. It has vibes of The People’s Front of Judea vs the Judean People’s Front.
• Not got to the end yet, so perhaps this will be covered
• Listened to Opening the Vicious Circle of Risk Rating (ft. Ariel Bogle)