Replied to On Wikis, Blogs and Note Taking by Ton Zijlstra

Yesterday I participated in, or more accurately listened in on, a IndieWeb conversation on wikis and their relationship to blogs (session notes).
I didn’t feel like saying much so kept quiet, other than at the start during a (too long) intro round where I described how I’ve looked at and used wi…

Really great to read your thoughts on this, Ton! 15+ years is a lot of experience. I also came across a post from Lilia Efimova related to the wiki/blog combo from a BlogWalk salon from 2004(!) – My dream wiki/weblog tool.

I feel both hemmed in by how my blog in its setup puts flow above stock, and how a wiki assumes stock more than flow.

I think you are right and that perhaps we are restricted by thinking about this in terms of wikis and blogs, because there is a lot of preconceptions associated with each of those. Perhaps thinking at the level of values/requirements, about something which can help us produce both stock and flow, can help us think about the process first, and then later comes the thinking about what tool or combo of tools can support us with that.

I often struggle with the assumed path of small elements to slightly more reworked content to articles.

I really like the ideas of patterns, constellations, Gestalts. Constellations is naturally quite close to the idea of connecting the dots! For my wikiblog to help me learn and grow my ideas, it definitely needs to help me see these constellations. I do sometimes wonder about the merits of making every concept as small as possible. Perhaps in the right context, yes, but I don’t feel that doing it dogmatically will always be helpful.

visualisations may point to novel constellations for me, emerging from the collection and jumble of stuff in the wiki. That I think is powerful.

I am hoping to explore a bit more how some of the mapping and bi-directional links in org-roam might help me with this.

Perhaps the ultimate requirement is for something that helps us see the constellations of our thoughts? I think for me this will be part stream (for sharing/receiving ideas from others), part note-taking tool, part garden, part visualisation.

Plus plenty of staring out of the window, away from tools!

Replied to New adventures in memory | 101 by an author

I’m not saying it took sleep deprivation, being away from home and being in grim industrial surroundings to finally ‘get’ the Smiths music but for some unknown reason on the train on the way back home the light bulb went on above my head and they’ve been a firm favourite ever since.

I’m glad something good came out of that industrial estate in Warrington.
Replied to a post by Ton Zijlstra

Reading Jeremy’s monthly notes about March and the shift into Italian lock-down, I got intrigued by a mention of how his ‘7-minutes’ had increased. 7-minutes? No idea what he meant, but a quick search in his own blog surfaced the first mention of it in his September 2019 notes:
“Finally down…

This is a decent app for getting a bit of variety in to your 7 minutes: seven.downdogapp.com/
Replied to a post by Chris AldrichChris Aldrich

As I’ve been reading about Zettlekasten for part of the evening, it dawns on me that there are some likely overlaps with both my prior work on statistical mechanics and ideas of mnemonics and techniques like the method of loci. I’ll have to think of how to better memorize and specifically tag pi…

I’ve thought about this too – I started to think of my wiki as a textual memory palace in some way. For helping to path it out/memorize it I thought it would be fun to have kind of text adventure paths through it. I kind of did that (along with a little sketch) on the homepage. (mentioned briefly in here under the Personal textbooks? section commonplace.doubleloop.net/wikis)

I also wondered if wikis then became collaborative in some way, they could become collaborative memory palaces. commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200308210932-collaborative_memory_palaces

All quite half-baked ideas at the moment but something I really like the idea of.

Replied to a post by Chris AldrichChris Aldrich

According to Neil, this is using “emacs with Org mode and Org-roam and publishing it as static HTML from org-mode. My holy grail would be something like TiddlyWiki but in emacs.”
I’ll have to take a look at this sort of set up while I’m looking at wikis. I’m sort of partial to TiddlyWiki m…

I think starting as frictionlessly as possible is a really good idea. Something where you can just easily type plain text and link those thoughts together – that’s the best place to start. For me that meant org-mode because I use it regularly anyway.

It’s evolving now with org-roam in the mix, in a direction I’m really happy with, but I think if I’d started trying to get everything in one I might have fizzled out. (That happened when I tried org-brain before – it was just too much friction).

I have some notes on my progression of wiki tooling here: commonplace.doubleloop.net/20200317105640-wiki_tooling